Is that a Structural Wall?

 

 

Chartered Surveyors and Structural Walls

This article on Structural walls has been written by Independent Chartered Surveyors. We pride ourselves on our high standards of work. We can offer Independent Valuations, Home Buyers Reports and Specific Defects Reports as well as Structural Surveys and Building Surveys which will help to identify a structural wall.

If you are looking to carry out design work or alterations we are more than happy to comment upon it as long as we know prior to the actual survey. Once we have been to the property we can also do 3D design drawings.

For serious structural problems we can do a Specific Defects Report also known as an Engineer's Report. This is useful if you have cracks to try and solve the problem or even better before you remove a wall or a potential structural wall.

This article won't make you into a Chartered Surveyor or a Structural Engineer but it will give you a basic insight. We have a wealth of knowledge on structural walls and just about anything property related. Please do not hesitate to call us on our free phone number 0800 298 5424.

 

Why is it important to know if it's a structural wall?

Walls come in many shapes and sizes; probably the most dangerous are what are known as structural walls as you can't just remove them from a property as in simplest terms they are holding things up or in place. This can typically be the roof or the floors. Also adjoining buildings may rely upon the wall as well which we find that people never think about.

 

Cracks to walls

Put this into perspective, the removal of a structural wall would at a minimum cause cracking within your property, possibly your next door neighbour's property as well! At worst it could cause a collapse in part of the property. Whilst today whole buildings don't generally fall down because people have learnt over the years not to remove structural walls, with construction becoming more complex it can be very difficult to identify what is a structural wall.

 

How do I make sure I am not taking down a structural wall?

The easy answer is to get a property professional in such as a Chartered Building Surveyor or Structural Engineer who is used to dealing with this type of problem. Alternatively you could risk it with a builder who says that he has carried out this type of work before! Remember anyone can call themselves a builder, a surveyor or an engineer. It is important to insure that they are Chartered Building Surveyors, Chartered Engineers or Chartered Builders and we can take a calculated risk of removing a structural wall � but it is your calculated risk and it is you that will have to pay the price to sort things out.

 

 

You can take a calculated risk of removing a structural wall

You can take a calculated risk by going to a builder or similar person who has taken down many walls over the years, but who may not understand always where a structural wall is. We generally find that with most builders they come from a trade background such as a carpenter or a bricklayer and whilst they have had practical experience of carrying out work to structural walls they often have been under instruction by a Chartered Building Surveyor or a Chartered Structural Engineer. We recently took down a wall in a house and were quite surprised that the joiner that we have a lot of respect for who has been in the trade many years and in fact we have had to talk him out of retirement to do the work we wanted was still never sure whether it was a structural wall or not.

 

We have been advised that it is not a structural wall, what do we do?

 

In theory you can just take it down but in practise you do need to explore first. We will put a caveat after this that we are assuming you have been advised it's a structural wall by either a Chartered Building Surveyor or Chartered Structural Engineer. They know what they are doing and have insurance to cover it if it all goes wrong. This is certainly not a situation where verbal advice is satisfactory. We mentioned above that you need to explore first. You can do this by tapping the walls to establish where the supports are or drill holes in it.
Holes drilled into a wall to establish where the structural frame is

 

Make an opening to see what is inside the wall

 

Walls can be constructed in many ways. Some of them are partially structural and some of them are just dividing walls. What we did next with this wall was to open up a section where the electric cables and plumbing was likely to be.

Take care as you may have electrics and pipework in the wall

Opening up a small section to identify where the pipes and the electric wires are as you don't wish to electrocute yourself by drilling into live electrics (always turn the electrical supply off) or cause a flood by drilling through the pipes. If you are in any doubt whatsoever then you do need to call in somewhat who has had experience of dealing with this type of work before.

Opening up the wall to identify more pipes. This time these are central heating microbore pipes. Don't forget that your central heating will have pipes going to it as well as the water supply to your taps

 

 

 

More pipes this time to and from radiators

 

There's not much to a modern stud wall

This literally is child's play and a child was having a go at sawing through the wall in this instance although we had obviously identified exactly where the electric power cables were and where the plumbing was.

 

 

Sawing through a partition

 

Looking inside a non-structural wall

We have left the back off this non-structural wall to show you how much can be in a non-structural wall. As you can see there is pipework everywhere. There has been no pride taken by the plumber that carried out this work. Equally there has been little pride by whoever put this studwork in as the metal studs are not even vertical. Don't be surprised what you find when you open up the wall.

 

 

A partly opened studwork wall

 

The big view of the wall

Our tip would be to literally take the plasterboard away first so you can see the wall and how it is made up. The plaster is not going to be structural. You can also see that there is no lintel above the studwork in this particular instance. You do need to be careful because non-structural walls can sometimes become semi structural walls if a property is altered.

 

 

A bigger view

 

The lost art of plumbing and structural walls

In years gone by the plumber was very skilled. We would argue that many plumbers now have little pride in their work. Here is an example of a microbore pipe to a central heating system. It has literally almost not been uncoiled and just dropped down through the wall.

 

 

A microbore pipe

 

Electrics, the hidden danger within walls

You can find almost anything in a wall. Don't be off guard just because it is a modern wall. In this studwork we actually found a live wire that had been tied around a copper pipe. This could in theory have been touching the plumbing system and made it live meaning you would get a shock off of it if you touched the radiator.

 

 

A live wire tied around a copper pipe

 

Remember Surveyors can see things that an untrained eye won't see

Whilst a Chartered Surveyor literally can't see through walls they certainly from their experience get an understanding of what a building is likely to be made up of. They do from the different finishes that they see to a property get an understanding of the quality of the work. As you can see in the photos this non-structural wall has been moved gradually ensuring that none of the electrics or plumbing was damaged.

 

Independent Chartered Surveyors

If you truly do want an independent expert opinion from a chartered surveyor, and many of us are also chartered builders, with regard to valuations, mortgages, mortgage companies, surveys, building surveys, structural reports/engineers reports/specific defects report, structural surveys, home buyers reports or any other property matters please contact 0800 298 5424 for a chartered surveyor to give you a call back.

 

Commercial Property

If you have a commercial property, whether it is freehold or leasehold then sooner or later you may get involved with dilapidation claims. You may wish to look at our Dilapidations Website at www.DilapsHelp.com and for Disputes go to our Disputes Help site www.DisputesHelp.com .

 

We hope you found the article of use and if you have any experiences that you feel should be added to this article that would benefit others, or you feel that some of the information that we have put is wrong then please do not hesitate to contact us (we are only human).

The contents of the web site are for general information only and are not intended to be relied upon for specific or general decisions. Appropriate independent professional advice should be paid for before making such a decision.

All rights are reserved the contents of the web site is not to be reproduced or transmitted in any form in whole or part without the express written permission of www.1stAssociated.co.uk

 

building engineers

Home Buyers Reports Property Surveys - why we're the best. Engineers Reports
© Copyright 1stassociated.co.uk

Quick Links:

Residential Property Surveying

Accessing Chimneys
Adding value to your property
Advice On Disputes
Are My Electrics Safe?
Animals and Plants Living around your Building
Approved Inspectors -v- Local Authority Building Control Officers
Are Surveys Better Than Valuations?
Asbestos
Asphalt Flat Roofs
Basement Conversions
Beautifully Naive Thoughts
Beeny's Restoration Nightmare
Book Review - A Practical Manual for Party Wall Surveyors
Book Review - Party Walls from the Case in Point Series
Book Review - Party Walls The New Law
Book Review - The Pyramus and Thisbe Club Green Book - A Party Wall Act Explained
Builders, Building Problems and Roofs and how a Chartered Surveyor can help
Building Regulations
Building Control Approval
Boundary Disputes
Boundary Disputes - A Case Study
Boundary Disputes Article - based on a presentation
Boundary Disputes Solved with Common Sense
Build, Buy or Restore
Building Disputes
Building Dispute - A Case Study
Building Survey Glossary
Building Surveys or Structural Surveys
Buying and Selling General Information
Buying a house
Buying at Auction Information
Buying Off-Market -v- Buying at Auction
Buying Property at Auction
Can you trust a Chartered Surveyors Valuation
Cavity Wall Problems
Chartered Surveyors pt1
Chartered Surveyors pt2
Cheap Building Surveys, or being wrongly advised by your Building Surveyor
Close Boarding
Chimney Issues
Common Chimney Problems
Compare Building Surveys
Compare Home Buyers Reports
Common Pitched Roofs
Condensation
Condensation and Cold Bridging
Condensation Problems
Condensation and Damp Walls
Conservatories, sometimes called Sunrooms
Cooper roofs, roof problems and how they work
Country House Rescue
Cowboy Builders
Cowboy Builders and Cowboy Clients
Cowboy Trap
Cracking and Movement Information
Cracking to my Plaster
Cracks in my Wall
Damp in properties
Damp Meters
Damp Proof Course, How do older properties keep dry without one?
Damp Proof Courses, What are these for?
Damp Proof Courses Defined
Damp Proof Courses and Modern Property
Damp Proof Courses in Older Properties?
Damp Proof Specialists, Talk to us First
Damp Surveying To A Different Standard
Dampness Defects Report
Dampness in Building - Technical Article
Dampness in Buildings - The Basics
Dampness Problems
Damp Walls
Dampness A Different View
Dangers of working on your own
Definitions of Building terms
Deteriorating Brickwork Cement Repointing
DIY SOS
Do All Houses Have Condensation?
Disputes
Do Banks and Building Society Surveyors Really Value Property?
Do Chartered Surveyors Value Property?
Dormer Roof Leaking
Drainage and Manholes
Dry Verges
Energy Efficiency Have We Got It All Wrong?
Energy Surveys or Energy Condition Reports v Thermal Imaging
Engineers Report
Environmental Reports
Estate Agents
Can You Trust an Estate Agent?
Estate Agent, There is no point being honest
Do Estate Agents Tell The Truth Or Do They Just Want a House Sale?
Estimating Building Costs
Excavation and construction close to your property
Expert Witness
Fascia and Soffit Board Problems
Financial Advisers
Flat Roofs
Foundations
Foundations and Underpinning
French Drains
From Fire Marks to Surveyor John Braid Wood
Georgian and Regency Properties and their common problems
Get a Survey Quote
Glass
Gnome Record
Good Design can Save you Money
Health and Safety in the Property Industry
Help! My House Is Falling Down
Help! My Brighton House Is Falling Down
Help! My Victorian House Is Falling Down
Homebuyers Report or Structural Survey
Homes Under The Hammer
How Developers Think
How do older properties keep dry without a damp proof course?
How do I convert my loft?
How, in our experience, insurance companies deal with cracks in properties
How to Buy a Property at Auction, FAQs
How to get on with your Builder
How to Solve Building Disputes
Independant Financial Advisers - Are they Independent?
Independant Financial Advisors pt1
Independant Financial Advisors pt2
Insulation, DPCs and Energy Performance Certificates
Insurance Claim
Insurance Claim Against Surveyors
Insurance Companies
It is important to remember where builders come from
Leaking Dormer Roofs
Leaking Flat Roofs
Lime Mortar
Listed Buildings and Character Properties
Location
Location, Location, Location
Loft Conversions
London Mansion Houses
Modern Timber Frame Properties and their common problems
1970s Modern Timber Frame Properties
Mortgage Valuations
Mortgages Aren't they interesting?
Movement and Cracking Information
My House Is Too Hot
My property has been repointed in a cement mortar, what can I do?
New Houses and Wood Cladding
NHBC Warranty Problems
Noisy Neighbour - A Different Sort
Non Traditional Housing
Not So Common Pitched Roofs
Old ceilings and how to repair them
Parking Dispute
Party Wall Surveyors Being Unreasonable
Party Walls
Party Walls Basics
Party Walls Look Like This
Party Walls Whos Who
Places of Worship and D1 User Class Buildings
Popular television programmes are not only popular with Chartered Surveyors
Pre and Post Suburban Properties and their common problems
Pre Sales Survey
Pre School And Day Nursery Dampness And Condensation Problems
Problem Solving
Problems with cap over and overclad fascia and soffit boards
Problems with fascia and soffit boards
Problems with newly built properties
Problems with Roof Windows, Roof Lights and Sky Lights
Property Eras and Common Problems
Property Acquisition Companies
Property Investors Wanted
Property Ladder and Property Snakes and Ladders
Property Management - It's all about cash flow
Property Valuations
Render problems and render cracking
Renting out a property Have you thought about this?
Repairing Cracks
Residential Surveys
Resolving dampness in your basement
Restoration Man
Rising damp, or is it
Rising Damp and Independent Reports
Rising Damp, Condensation and Damp through Walls
Roof Problems and Information
Roof Problems
Roof Windows, Roof Lights, Sky Lights and Light Tunnels
Room for Improvement
Secret Shopper on Estate Agents
Settlement, Subsidence and Heave
Shared Freehold and Problems with Damp
Should I have a Structural Survey?
Six Metre Notice Section 6 Party Wall Act
Sliding Sash Window Problems
Snow causing winter house problems
Solar The Options
Sorting out Property Problems with Solicitors and Surveyors
Specific Defects Reports
Spray Foam Insulation in Roofs
Structural Cracking
Structural Report
Structural Surveys
Structural Survey, What Does a Chartered Surveyor Do?
Structural Wall
Structural walls or non-structural walls
Summer temperatures cause house problems!
Surveys of Georgian buildings in Ealing, London W5
The Great Fire of London
The History of Non-Traditional Building
Thermal Imaging
Three Metre Notice Section 6 Party Wall Act
Time waits for no-one, be they the Building Owner or Adjoining Owner, Section 1 of Party Wall etc Act 1996
Time waits for no-one, be they the Building Owner or Adjoining Owner, Section 2 of Party Wall etc Act 1996
Traditional and Non-Traditional Properties, What are they?
Traditional Tudor Timber Frame Properties and their common problems
Unhealthy alliance between Estate Agents and Surveyors
Useful Tips on Buying A Property To Let
Valuation
Valuation the same, Snap
Value and Worth The Moral Maze
Valuations Information
Victorian and Edwardian Properties and their common problems
Wall Issues
Wall Tie Problems
We carry out property valuations but we may not be able to carry out one for you
What do Chartered Surveyors do?
What does a Chartered Surveyor do on a Structural Survey?
What is a Party Wall Notice?
What is a Third Surveyor in Relation to Party Wall etc Act 1996?
What Is An Independent Survey?
What is my Home Worth?
What type of doors do i have and are they worth saving?
Where do i find a good builder?
Where is my boundary?
Who ensures your builder does a good job?
Why Do Building Costs Always Go Up?
Why Have One Of Our Surveys?
Why Have a Residential Survey?
Why Use Us?
Why You Have Never Seen any Building Surveys or Structural Surveys Like Ours
Windows and how to understand if you have a problem
Windows and the Great Fire of London
Woodworm problems in the floor
Woodworm Treatment
You Deserve This House
 

Commercial Property Surveying

Directories and Indexes that you can find us in on the Internet

A-Z of Dilapidations
Asbestos
Beware of the Late Served Schedule of Dilapidations by the Landlord
Break Clauses, Are they Worth it?
Building Survey Glossary
Buying a Commercial Property at Auction
Buying at Auction Information
Comment on RICS Dilapidations Guidance Note as Precised by Vivien King
Commercial Property, What is a Primary, Secondary or Tertiary Property?
Commercial Surveys
Commercial Survey Forms
Compare Commercial Surveys
Compare Commercial Building Surveys
Dealing with Asbestos in Retail Units
Dilapidations
Dilapidations and Chartered Accountants and your Accounts
Dilapidations for Surveyors
Dilapidations for Tenants and Leaseholders
Dilapidations help - what we can do for you
Dilapidations in a nutshell for landlords and investors
Dilapidations in a nutshell for tenants and leaseholders
Dilapidantions Negotiations (Landlord or Landlord's Surveyor not acting fairly)
Dilapidations - The Negotiation
Dilapidations - two for the price of one
Dilaps and Poker Playing
Dilaps Break Clauses
Dilaps Claim
Dilaps Claim by a Landlord
Dilaps Disagreements on the Repairs Needed
Dilaps Dilaps Help Course Book, Comments by Vivien King
Dilaps More Information
Do not let the end of your lease end your business
Experienced Businesspeople understand the importance of a Schedule of Condition being appended to a Lease
Expert Witness
Good Design can Save you Money
Health and Safety in the Property Industry
How do Civil Procedure Laws Affect Dilapidations
How do I value my shop?
How to read a Dilapidations Schedule
Industrial Commercial Properties - The Asbestos Cement Dilemma
Information about Buying at Auction
Interim Dilapidations
Landlords and Tenants
Landlords can you have too good a retail tenant?
Landlords can you have too good an industrial tenant?
Landlords Industrial Properties
Landlord's view on a new business taking on a lease
Landlords Retail Investment Properties
Landlords What can we do for You?
Lease Negotiations with your Landlord
My First Lease What Should I Do?
Negotiating Dilapidations
Negotiating with a Landlord
Negotiating FRI Lease Clauses
Reading your Village, Town and City
Retail Leases or Licences
RICS Guidance Notes on Dilapidations
Schedule of Condition - What should I expect?
Scedule of Conditions for Commercial Properties
Scott's Schedules
Section 18 Valuation
Structural Survey
Terminal Schedules of Dilapidations
The Lazy Solicitor and the Lease
The RICS Dilapidations Guidance Note by Vivien King
Vivian King on RICS Guidance Note and Dilaps
What is a Schedule of Condition?
What is Primary, Secondary or Tertiary Property?
Why Advanced Rent
Why have a Schedule of Condition carried out?
Your Lease in Plain English

Links to Surveyors and Property Related Companies Around the World

 

Property Courses

Dilapidations - New Improved Presentations Click Here

Dilapidations - Original Presentations Click Here

Party Walls Presentations Click Here

Building Surveying Presentations Click Here

Building Surveys New Improved Click Here

Final Countdown Presentations Click Here

Lectures 1 Click Here

Lectures 2 Click Here

Building Pathology
Building Survey Glossary
Building Surveying Acapulco Presentation
Building Surveying Clients and Introduction Presentation
Building Surveying Executive Summaries Presentation
Building Surveying Follow the Trail Presentation
Building Surveying Survey Groups and Managing Presentation
Building Surveying Project Minutes
Building Surveying Questions Georgian and Regency
Building Surveying Questions Modern Timber Frame
Building Surveying Questions Pre and Post Suburban Years
Building Surveying Questions Traditional Timber Frame
Building Surveying Questions Victorian and Edwardian
Buying and Selling Your Property Course: Course Aim
Commercial and Section 18 Valuations Presentation 5
Commercial Building Survey Example Presentation 5
Dilapidations Courses
Dilapidations Follow the Trail Presentation 3
Dilapidations Introduction to Surveying Presentation
Dilapidations Legal Framework Presentation 4
Dilapidations Overview and Schedules of Condition New Presentation 1
Dilapidations Overview and Schedules of Condition Presentation 1
Dilapidations Review Industrial New Presentation 3
Dilapidations Review Property Reports New Presentation 2
Dilapidations Review Schedules of Condition and Property Reports New Presentation 1
Dilapidations Review Industrial Presentation 3
Dilapidations Review Property Reports Presentation 2
Dilapidations Review Schedules of Condition and Property Reports Presentation 1
Dilapidations Review of Schedules of Condition and Property Reports Presentation 3
Dilaps Help Course Book, Comments by Vivien King
Dilaps Help Presentation 9
Property Eras Georgian Photos Presentation
Property Eras Modern Photos Presentation
Property Eras Post War Photos Presentation
Property Eras Regency, Victorian, Post War and Modern Photos Presentation
Property Eras Tudor Photos Presentation
Property Eras Victorian Photos Presentation
Estimating Building Costs Presentation 5
Final Countdown - Last 3 Weeks Presentation
Final Countdown - Dilapidations Example Presentation
Final Countdown - Schedule of Condition Example Presentation
Final Countdown - Last 2 Weeks - Expert Witness Presentation
Final Countdown - Last 2 Weeks - Speaker Review Presentation
Final Countdown - Last Week - Party Walls Presentation
Goals, Presentations and Offices Presentation 6
Improving Your Presentation
Industrial Dilapidations Presentation 3
Industrial Unit Dilapidations Issues in Photos Presentation 3
Leases RICS Guidance and Protocol Presentation 3
Our Beliefs and Values
Outstanding Building Surveys Presentation
Party Walls Five Types of Party Walls Presentation 1
Party Walls Example used in Presentation 1
Presentations, New Presentation 8
Presentations, Presentation 8
Property As An Investment Course
Property Report and Schedule of Condition Example Presentation 5
Property Courses
Reading your Village, Town and City
Reading your Village, Town and City for Dilaps Students
RICS Guidance Notes Presentation 7
Schedules of Dilapidations Review Presentation 6

1st Associated Chartered Surveyors Are Also Available in the Following Areas:

East Anglia and East

Norfolk
Suffolk
Essex
Cambridgeshire
Lincolnshire

South and South East

Isle of Wight
East Sussex
West Sussex
Surrey
Kent
Berkshire
Oxfordshire
Buckinghamshire
Bedfordshire
Hertfordshire

West Country and South West

Cornwall
Devon
Somerset
Bristol
Dorset
Wiltshire
Hampshire
Gloucestershire
Shropshire
Herefordshire

Midlands

Northamptonshire
Rutland
Leicestershire
Nottinghamshire
Derbyshire
Warwickshire
Staffordshire
Worcestershire
West Midlands
 

North and North East

Cheshire
Cleveland
Merseyside
Lancashire
Cumbria
West Yorkshire
South Yorkshire
East Riding Of Yorkshire
North Yorkshire
Northumberland
Tyne and Wear
Durham
Greater Manchester

Wales

Blaenau Gwent
Bridgend
Caerphilly
Cardiff
Carmarthenshire
Ceredigion
Conwy
Denbighsire
Flintshire
Gwynedd
Isle of Anglesey
Merthyr Tydfil
Monmouthshire
Neath Port Talbot
Newport
Pembrokeshire
Powys
Rhonda Cynon Taff
Swansea
Torfaen
Cardiff
Vale of Glamorgan
Wrexham

Other Areas of Britain

The Cotswolds
 

London

Central London
- City of London
- City of Westminster
- Soho
- Kensington
- Chelsea
- Hammersmith and Fulham
- Wandsworth
- Lambeth
- Southwark
- Tower Hamlets
- Hackney
- Islington
- Camden
- Brent
- Ealing
- Stratford
- Hounslow
- Richmond upon Thames
- Kingston upon Thames
- Merton
- Sutton
- Croydon
- Bromley
- Lewisham
- Greenwich
- Bexley
- Marylebone
- Havering
- Barking
- Dagenham
- Redbridge
- Newham
- Waltham Forest
- Haringey
- Enfield
- Barnet
- Harrow
- Hillingdon
North London
South London
East London
West London

London Parks

This firm does not accept service of documents by email or fax

Admin/Registered Office:

Hoo View House
Stanley Street
Bedford
Bedfordshire